If you lose a fight with a cougar, the hunting party might find most of your body if they’re quick. Include your email address to get a message when this question is answered. I have the same problem. I doubt that cougars are any more cooperative. Man fights off mountain lion with a pocket knife in Grand County, officials say

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By: Ryan Osborne. An average adult should be able to ward off an attack by fighting back since mountain lions are rather small. I’ve always felt that I didn’t finish the topic sufficiently since I steered clear of what to do if you’re actually in a fight with a mountain lion. A strike to the heart is almost automatic if you have the knife for it. TOPS' creation of the knife known as the Mountain Lion was completed after numerous conversations, design ideas, and input from several retired and active members of the famed 10th Mountain Division. Eight inches and some punch should cross the chest cavity easily. Seems about right, although you can definitely do better than a bread knife. Is it a good idea to use a gun to fend off a mountain lion? Kitties understand these things. wikiHow is a “wiki,” similar to Wikipedia, which means that many of our articles are co-written by multiple authors. Probably the reason right-handed people dominate the population is that when you face an opponent of any species, their heart is on your right. How high and what type? Mountain lions tend to pounce on prey, tackle them and gouge their mid-sections with their claws before trying to bite the throat and snap the neck. If it seems like hitting the nose is the best option, do it. It required two axe blows. If you ever find yourself in a dangerous encounter with a mountain lion, it's best to be prepared, especially if you live in an area that is home to big cats. Spammers and hackers made it impossible for me to keep anything but this one site running. Be sure not to dismiss paw prints for those of a dog or coyote. Forget the collapsible hiking sticks people carry today, they won’t impress anything. The muscles above that vein are tough and most people today don’t carry sharp knives. How do I make it go away? Point of the throat, just above the collarbones. Usually, when he hunts he has his pistol with him. If you ever run into a mountain lion, yell at it forcefully while backing away slowly. Most of the people who find themselves facing mountain lions today haven’t pondered the moral issues. Mountain lions—also known as cougars, pumas, catamounts, or Florida panthers—have razor sharp claws, can weigh over 200 pounds, and can run at speeds of up to 50 mph. Probably it’s the reason more people aren’t attacked and we don’t even comprehend that we are doing the right thing. In real life, people attacked by lions often miss out completely on the part where you get to brandish sticks and throw things. amzn_assoc_ad_mode = "auto"; A missed throw is just reinforcement of the idea that you’re defenseless and ineffective. Problem is, people miss. GRAND COUNTY — A man fought off a mountain lion with a pocket knife near Kremmling last weekend, Colorado Parks and Wildlife officials said Friday. If you do get attached by a bobcat, fight back and it will likely run away. Of the case studies I found, only one person managed to kill a mountain lion with a knife. There’s a grisly old hunter’s trick you might find handy for such situations. All tip submissions are carefully reviewed before being published. They didn’t have a clear shot at the neck. I personally believe that I also have a right to life and in peacetime situations I will make it very difficult for anything to kill me. They prefer easy prey, a victim that will not fight back. Wildlife officials said the hunter did everything right when he was stalked by a mountain lion near Kremmling. Never scream, run away, or bend down, since this can cause the mountain lion to attack. I have spotted a mountain lion in my yard many times. An elk hunter in Big Horn Park in Kremmling managed to fight off a mountain lion using a pocketknife. Actually poking is better than swinging so I wouldn’t personally carry the collapsible sort. The best way to prevent a mountain lion attack is to prevent a situation from escalating in the first place. Knocking you down is the first step to that. This function has been disabled for The Marked Tree. You can stab the heart area multiple times without actually hitting the heart. Poking works lots better. Sky-Hi News reports he was able to defend himself with his pocketknife by stabbing the male lion in the face as it came towards him. Posted at 2:44 PM, … Quite possibly. If you know you can kill them, they’ll know it, too. Richard Marriott was headed back to his car under the cover of night on August 10 when he heard something behind him. Mountain lions move at a much slower pace than dogs or coyotes, so the tracks will be further spread apart and also directly behind each other. I grew up on a farm, where we did things in the old way. 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\n<\/p><\/div>"}. A good trail staff or a collapsible baton gives you a good shot at reasonable self defense. I like the idea of bear spray in the water bottle cage -- impressive sounding and unobtrusive. The man told Colorado Parks and Wildlife officials that he … Get something solid, and learn to poke instead of swing. There's a reason why a mountain is the apex predator. Against a mountain lion you’ll need at least a six-inch blade if you know what you’re doing and you’re strong. If you have strong wrists that’s very practical. What hunters do is all about business. Chances are good that you don’t, and sticking a mountain lion that’s chomping on your arm would be a tough job even for Jake. Since tigers like to attack from behind (as do mountain lions) and the target was usually the neck, one of the more effective defenses was for the woodcutters to wear cheap Halloween masks on the backs of their heads. Of the cases I studied, I found two of these. And running will nearly always trigger an attack. They’d either be lucky enough to get away or wind up as lion food. If you do hit it, fight’s over. He saw the big cat and walked backwards for about 200 yards until he tripped and fell. It is … References A bobcat is very different and much smaller than a mountain lion, and likely will not attack a human. No, you’d likely bleed out in the process. The throat does have weak points, but they’re behind those muscles. If a mountain lion confronts you and you brandish a weak branch and throw a pebble and yell, a weak mountain lion might back away. If you want a solid survival knife, the new "Dirty By Design" Mountain Lion from the Pathfinder Knife Shop is a good choice. You might think of spears as long distance weapons, but actually some of the old advice about how to use them involves gripping them at the hilt and using them as knives. You most likely will not be able to outrun the mountain lion. While fighting to defend his life, the man managed to kill the lion. This article will give you information on how to protect yourself. We use cookies to make wikiHow great. Photo by nbennato at morguefile.com, [Let me simplify, 11/3/2016. If you are carrying a backpack, you’re pretty safe, the neck is protected. amzn_assoc_placement = "adunit0"; Woodcutters suffer an unusual number of deaths due to tigers, yet tigers are an important and endangered species, so ways had to be found to let the two coexist without undue bloodshed. It can run around 64-80km/h. It’s good karma probably. If you have a knife and it is charging you go for the neck, face (like nose or eyes) or the side of the cat. This article has been viewed 191,918 times. That’s what you need if you want to kill something. Let's be real: Your chances of beating back a seriously pissed-off bear, mountain lion, or pack of coyotes aren't much better than those of finding a unicorn in an elk herd. 578 Posts #4 • Dec 29, 2009. The heart is a small target. If you’re attacked and you want to live, you have to fight. "It's like a forest guide, telling us how to take certain precautions to save our lives. All original material on this site is the sole property of the author and cannot be reproduced in any form without his express permission. amzn_assoc_enable_interest_ads = "true"; My neighbor told me that he used fireworks to scare the puma and it seems to have worked. Double-edged, sharp on both sides, with the belly of the blade swelling near the point, where in that interior zone it will do the most damage. Barehanded, that’s your only chance. Some people have wrestled their way out of that first bad position. If you’re working with a long blade and you stab a mountain lion in the left side of the chest or on the side behind the shoulder blade, you’re at least in the area of the heart. You have no chance to escape it by running. If you spear an elephant, or a walrus, you don’t pull the spear out and back away. With a short blade, well, you just made the cat really mad. Avoid Escalation. What should I do if a bobcat attacks me and no one is around? It is equipped for hard action in winter and mountain warfare. A couple of years ago I wrote a piece for my website Jimmy’s Backpacking Page called “Defense Against Animals.” The pages there covered some useful topics like what to do to avoid alligators and tactics for bear country. % of people told us that this article helped them. Just in case you were thinking about it, DO NOT RUN away from the mountain lion. I don’t particularly want to argue the morality of fighting back or the necessity of fighting back, so I just included a suggestion, that if you’re going to scare off a cougar by brandishing a stick or throwing a rock (which is the advice that the park rangers give you), carry some good rocks and sticks with you. amzn_assoc_linkid = "aa7b8e5d408049bfc161effde59fe787"; If you get upset by descriptions of violence, stop here. Mountain lions target the head and the throat, usually killing or disabling their prey by strangulation or a broken neck. Unlike bears (see defense against bear attacks here), Mountain Lions (also known as cougar, puma, mountain lion, mountain cat, catamount or panther) usually go after a person with the intent to eat them.They tend to stalk their victim before the attack and they love to attack from behind. About the Mountain Lion or Cougar. So, we see here two knives I made. My suggestion, taken from a modern Japanese martial artist, was to carry a small pouch of golf balls to throw. Start hitting the animal in the head, specifically the eyes. This article has been viewed 191,918 times. Today, few people do. Yes. You can also use a hunting rifle or pistol to fire at the lion if it makes a charge at you. By using this service, some information may be shared with YouTube. Honestly for a Mountain Lion a human does not have a good chance when it comes down to human w/ knife vs mountain lion, but I do recommend he has a knife in case he would be knocked to the ground or a last resort. Unless you know exactly what you’re doing, it’s not easy to even find a jugular vein. The instinctive thing people do is stab and withdraw and stab again. Be prepared to be gouged by their claws and potentially bit as well. If you don’t have anything, use your fists. That’s when Richard Marriott of Evergreen said he used the only weapon he had on him — a pocket knife — to fight back against the wild animal, Sky-Hi News reports. Having her pick out the knife is intriguing, but then she might think too much about the chances of winning a knife fight with a mountain lion. You don't want to wound a mountain lion as they would go through a lot of pain before they die. If you run, the mountain lion will see you as a prey and chase after you. Please help us continue to provide you with our trusted how-to guides and videos for free by whitelisting wikiHow on your ad blocker. You won’t find many trail spears for sale these days. If you choose to run (which is unrecommended), check your terrain and make sure if you can get a strong, flat spring. I’ve known people who thought that was the noble decision, and there’s a story that in one of his previous lives Gotama Siddhartha fed himself to a starving tigress. Playing dead for a mountain lion just lets them finish the job. A mountain lion was killed after it attacked a man inside a park in Colorado earlier this month. I no longer belong to Google Adsense so Google will not be scanning your activities here unless you are using Chrome Browser or Google Search. That way, no matter how the tiger approached, the victim was always looking at the tiger and the tiger never found the sweet spot. It happened last weekend when the … Also, consider using fence rollers. If a big tom lion wants to eat you it will. I enjoy everything that leads up to it. On rare occasions, people survive a cougar attack by actually killing the animal in hand to hand combat. A good knife does well up close. Credit: Courtesy Photo. Playing dead often satisfies a grizzly bear, which then wanders off to its regular business. You should first attempt to fire a warning shot to scare off the lion before it attacks. Detecting the Mountain Lion's Presence Before an Attack Look out for tracks. wikiHow is where trusted research and expert knowledge come together. You couldn’t carry a firearm in a national park at the time, but I did have my two-and-a-half-inch utility knife and I started folding out the blade as a precaution. She’s lucky the blade didn’t just bend. I do get offers but I turn them down. The best way to avoid … For advice on how to avoid encountering a mountain lion in the first place, scroll down... Wild Animal Attack Prevention and Response, http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/should-you-run-or-freeze-when-you-see-a-mountain-lion/, http://mountainlion.org/featurearticlesign.asp, http://westernwildlife.org/cougar-outreach-project/cougar-identification/, https://www.dfg.ca.gov/wildlife/lion/lion_faq.html, http://www.fs.usda.gov/Internet/FSE_DOCUMENTS/stelprdb5251229.pdf, consider supporting our work with a contribution to wikiHow. If you’re working with a long blade and you stab a mountain lion in the left side of the chest or on the side behind the shoulder blade, you’re at least in the area of the heart. If you know he is going to attack, it could be a good idea to use a gun if you know how to use one, but aim for a kill shot. If the mountain lion still isn’t deterred, throw rocks at it. Teen says he used knife to fight off mountain lion . Even if the woodcutters simply strung a wooden club across their shoulders, so the butt of the club hung behind their necks, the tigers kept their distance. That was the lady with the bread knife, twelve inches long. That depends in part on the size of the dog. Some found tools like rocks, or had something useful with them like a pocket knife, but small weapons don’t have much effect on lions. An Evergreen man was able to get away from a mountain lion that was attacking him by fighting back with his pocketknife. Top is a functional skean dubh, good for all sorts of camp work. In cases where people have wrestled cougars, about half the time people lose. One lady had a pair of surgical forceps with her and drove them into the lion’s eye socket. You should fend the mountain lion off in anyway you can. Others have faced off a lion that’s just testing the waters, but failed to intimidate them. Being prepared is much better, if you’re not opposed to an occasional killing. Last Updated: November 18, 2020 Big Bend mountain lion attacks boy, 6 A 6-year-old boy was attacked by a mountain lion while walking near the lodge at Chisos Basin in Big Bend Mountain lions are not the only animals that make these kinds of markings; bears will often make similar markings, but there will be larger chunks of bark missing. In national parks in India, people are allowed to collect wood. Not even the top strongmen in the world could “beat up” an adult cougar unarmed. Will a fence work to protect our residence? The odds would be stacked highly against you…as in 100000:1 you’re killed in a “fight” with a grown cougar. If you have a stick or knife, using that on the nose can work even better. Real fighting gets personal and it’s messy and done in tight circumstances. amzn_assoc_region = "US"; Jake stuck them in the jugular vein, quick and clean. The best position to be during an attack is on your back in a fetal position. They don't like bright lights or loud noises. When I link to products I only earn commissions if someone buys and keeps the product. If the mountain lion acts aggressively, throw stones at or near it; convince it that you could be dangerous. CPW officers tracked down the lion … That worked every time, because Jake knew his business. Beautiful solution! wikiHow marks an article as reader-approved once it receives enough positive feedback. :) Thank you!". A women in Northern California fended off an attack with a ballpoint pen. According to the wildlife officials, the cougar pounced and scratched the man's legs. Jim 09-22-2008 #19. Two simple solutions were found. With a trail spear or a staff in your hands, and a good knife on your belt, don’t yell and flail about. Push on that spot and in only a few seconds the lion is going to have to move and think of something different. All good options. I’d lots rather poke a lion with a spear or a staff and convince it to move along, and in most cases that will work, if the lion is facing you and checking you out to see if you’re an easy mark. .357, .44 mag, 10mm. In lion fights, people often find themselves with one hand in the lion’s mouth and the other trying to do something useful, like choking the beast. BTW, I realize that I'm far more likely to die from, say, a crash than from a mountain lion. That makes it a target for the dominant hand. Marriott was in the woods at the time to hunt. You keep the blade in place and you stir. Jake knew how to work with hogs and how to use a knife. Poke and crunch things, be mean. Even if the lion held still it would take several passes with the average pocket knife, applied in a slicing movement, to even get down to the vein. You can use your legs as leverage and hands to grab the lion’s throat to keep it from biting. 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Lever the blade back and forth with the ribs as a fulcrum and you slash everything. If you are smart enough to carry weapons, read on.]. You and me, let’s do it. If you have some “teeth and claws” with you, you’re not an easy mark. By using our site, you agree to our. Nothing you can do about it. A 10mm Glock is not going to be too heavy and would be a good defense. Avoid trying to agitate it further, such as by hitting weakly or touching the lion. One man bashed the cougar with a large rock that happened to be within reach, and a woman involved in a group melee dispatched a cougar with a kitchen knife, in one account described as “a bread knife a foot long.”. Cougars are tough and persistent. For this animal, either a good trail spear or a good Bowie knife qualifies as the right equipment. If you see a mountain lion, you should probably call your dog into your house to keep it from getting into a fight. Rivers Hobbs, 6, was walking near a lodge at Chisos Basin in Big Bend National Park, in West Texas, with his family on Saturday night, when he was attacked by a mountain lion, according to the Houston Chronicle. If my dog is chasing a mountain lion off my property, will the lion eventually kill my dog? It’s a horrible process but it works really well. I often write reviews of products I purchased or products of which I have an expert opinion, but I do not write paid reviews or accept products for free. Read: Caught On Camera: Rare Footage of Grizzly Bears Fighting On Northern Canadian Highway. If he does not already carry a firearm then he should. CHRIS YOUNG Tuesday Oct 4, 2011 at 12:01 AM Oct 4, 2011 at 3:20 AM. They’re just unprepared, never having expected it to happen. Lever the blade back and forth with the ribs as a fulcrum and you slash everything. A man who managed to fight off a mountain lion using a pocketknife has described his relief that he was not seriously injured during the encounter. To create this article, 31 people, some anonymous, worked to edit and improve it over time. More than that is better. On Monday, a trail runner in Colorado was attacked by a mountain lion. A 14-year-old deer hunter said he was attacked by a mountain lion … A mountain lion was killed after it attacked a man inside a park in Colorado earlier this month. Make a mess in there, and then pull out and try again. You’d still have to throw hard and hit the target to make an impression, but hey, if all you’re going to do is throw rocks and yell, golf balls are the best rocks you’ll find. Lions who are hungry and serious about their business attack from behind like most other big cats do, and the first hint of trouble you note is when you’re knocked to the ground by a hundred or so pounds of lethal cat. A father used a pocket knife to fight off a mountain lion that was attacking his 6-year-old son at a park in west Texas. They're a must for deterring any type of wildlife. Man uses pocketknife to fight off mountain lion. He was looking for places to hunt elk in Bighorn Park subdivision near Kremmling when the cougar struck, CBS Denver reports. I wrote a part of that about “Defense Against Mountain Lions.” I can’t link to it here because that site is gone now. No wonder there aren’t many of you left. This is how he did that. Elk will sometimes scrape their antlers on tree trunks, but these will be smaller, more horizontal markings. Some people enjoy it. To create this article, 31 people, some anonymous, worked to edit and improve it over time. Choking anything isn’t really easy. The animal goes down immediately, like a punctured balloon. The 10th Mountain Division's (a light infantry division) specialty involves fighting effectively in harsh conditions. Would hitting a mountain lion hard on the nose work? If you really can’t stand to see another ad again, then please consider supporting our work with a contribution to wikiHow. By “good” I mean big enough to be useful. For the safety of yourself and your tiger, try to avoid crossing paths with any lion. I’ve seen this demonstrated many times in films of other indigenous hunters working with “primitive” weapons. If a knife scared it, it didn't want to eat you in the first place. Advertising: Survivors of cougar attacks seldom do more than wound the cat and escape. The neck muscles of a strong animal resist that pressure. A mountain lion is long and lean. Copyrighted Content: If that’s your choice, I respect that. They collapse when you poke something. Build it as high as you wish Keep in mind, though, that mountain lions can jump 15 feet from standing and 40 feet running, so the best option is for the fence to be angled outwards because cats usually get deterred from something that is past that 90 degree angle. Botttom is the lion killer. A trail staff doesn’t offer the same lethality as a spear unless you’re really good. If you have to run up jagged or hilly terrain, the mountain lion might think you are injured and thus, even better prey. Armed only with a pocketknife and some rocks, a hunter fought off an adult mountain lion after it began to stalk him on a moonlit trail in Colorado. They require time-consuming disassembly and reassembly before they’re usable as spears, and even when put together they’re all wrong in many ways. Don’t do it lightly if you want useful results. amzn_assoc_fallback_mode = {"type":"search","value":"self defense"}; When bears attack, it’s usually a territorial thing, but when lions attack, they mean to kill you. The only options you have today are spears you make yourself, or trail staffs with emergency spears built into them. If you grow up in those circumstances you learn the things people used to know, like how to kill something cleanly. This is based upon lion and other big cat habits and is very effective. If it is a smaller dog, it's in a lot more danger. In this case, 88% of readers who voted found the article helpful, earning it our reader-approved status. In most ways I’d rather not know these things, and it doesn’t make me feel better to know that I didn’t learn much that was new during my time in the military. Dec 6, 2013 … If you’ve come to the festival with the right equipment, you’re much more likely to go home the winner. Would a cougar consider me prey if it saw me riding my bike? If you have an eight-inch blade (not counting handle) you should be good from either side. It might not kill them, although they’ll be hacking and coughing for a few days if you do it lightly. The lion kept to its business, you have good days and bad days if you hunt for a living but you don’t just stop. Always have them in arms reach, and if you do spot a mountain lion, pick them up to keep them from running [2]. Ended up being a 35 lb kitten. Try to grab something to fight back with. For advice on how to avoid encountering a mountain lion in the first place, scroll down... Get the proven playbook to heal a broken heart. Make yourself look bigger by waving your arms and picking up nearby small children. It's amazing! Either way, the people who survived wound up face to face with the lion, being ripped up by claws and bitten by very large teeth, without any doubts that the cats were trying to kill them. With this in mind, you can look at the people in North America who have disappeared in the woods and hmm, there’s a pattern there. Anything going fast like a deer dashing away may be considered a food option. No guns, no explosives. Jake never slashed a hog, knowing it would do no good. Richard Marriott, from Evergreen, Colorado, was attacked on August 10th while scouting the area for hunting spots. amzn_assoc_tracking_id = "amerishama-20"; Left-handed people, you poor bastards . In another incident, a lumberjack attacked a lion that was mauling a fellow worker, expecting to stop the cat with an axe blow to the back. It doesn’t matter what attacks you, they know if you’re confident. When I was a kid, if we were killing hogs we called for the local expert, Jake. Good weapons make confidence. amzn_assoc_ad_type = "smart"; Animals are tougher than we are, and even starving cougars have done things that would earn a human the Medal of Honor. Grab a knife, a GPS, a rock, a stick, anything hard that you can hit with. He was looking for places to hunt elk in Bighorn Park subdivision near Kremmling when the cougar struck, CBS Denver reports. Personally, I’d never carry them. but it wasn’t the simplest one. They’re hard, symmetrical and accurate, and don’t weigh much or take up much room. Works on large animals as well as small ones, even easier on large animals because the target is bigger. Alone in the woods at night, all he had to protect himself was a dull pocket knife and rocks, which he threw at the animal, Richard Marriott told Sky-Hi News. You are welcome to ask. We know ads can be annoying, but they’re what allow us to make all of wikiHow available for free. . Thanks to all authors for creating a page that has been read 191,918 times. Cuts both ways. Bring the tools to the ready, and tell the kitty, bring it on. Many people who survived cougar attacks had help. I felt that those people willing to fight would probably be prepared to fight and those who wouldn’t, won’t want to. Richard Marriott with the mountain lion that attacked him. The man told Colorado Parks and Wildlife officials that he was attacked about 9 p.m. on Aug. 10. amzn_assoc_default_category = "All"; We are a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for us to earn fees by linking to Amazon.com and affiliated sites. . Richard Marriott survived an attack by a mountain lion Saturday night near Kremmling, CO fighting back by stabbing the animal with a pocket knife and throwing rocks at it, … A man in Colorado encountered a mountain lion. (Today (12/18/2017) I thought I would add something about passive defense that was in my original article. amzn_assoc_marketplace = "amazon"; Double-edged, I ground it from a file and made tweaks. A man managed to fight off a ‘very aggressive’ mountain lion with just rocks and a pocket knife; Knives in the News A man managed to fight off a ‘very aggressive’ mountain lion with just rocks and a pocket knife Source: Yahoo News. Make a mess in there, and then pull out and try again. Having studied a large number of case histories of actual mountain lions attacks on humans, I will not recommend golf balls to anyone except those whose last option in a confrontation happens to be feeding parts of your own body to the lion. Hunting parties go back later, with dogs, and execute the animal if it’s still around. A strong one won’t. The last BS story like this was last year when a CO man killed a lion with his knife and bare hands. Aim for the head, mouth, and eyes. People who disappear are the ones who aren’t carrying packs, or they have daypacks that ride low.). Good weapons, ready at hand, prevent most fights. If you look at museum pieces, you see lots of leaf-blade daggers. Approved. They’re seldom at hand when you really need them, and you can bring better equipment than you can pick up on the ground. It’s an irritation, but unless you’re unusually strong it’s not lethal against something like a big cat. The cats can’t eat everything in one day, and often lose the battle by lolling about until they’re ready for a refill. With today’s short and dull knives you can stab repeatedly and might even poke the heart without doing real damage to it. Try setting the fireworks off every other night for a week or so. Some people armed with pocket knives tried to cut the lion’s jugular vein and were not successful. . Please add, "There was a mountain lion sighting in our yard, so I definitely needed some helpful information on safety and, "I have a cougar in my backyard, I just wanted to know what to do to stay safe. If you have a tiger, you can try, but the two will probably fight instead of one scaring the other off, and you might put your tiger's safety in jeopardy. 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